tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-73042886598650075.post7092404076069595568..comments2024-03-18T19:31:43.125-05:00Comments on Byzantine, Texas: Met. Kallistos on the "faithful and monogamous homosexual"Byzantine, TXhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17845681957622343484noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-73042886598650075.post-81927771024273693462018-06-23T20:32:03.658-05:002018-06-23T20:32:03.658-05:00I’m sure Christianity is thankful to have a defend...I’m sure Christianity is thankful to have a defender such as yourself.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-73042886598650075.post-30110578622839416562018-06-23T13:54:40.202-05:002018-06-23T13:54:40.202-05:00One thing that has not been discussed much around ...One thing that has not been discussed much around here is why Fr. John Behr and perhaps others would publish in The Wheel? This reform effort led by the priest Robert Arida and others such as Met. Kallistos is well understood. What is the *wisdom* of associating with these efforts?Jakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16152024447008244670noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-73042886598650075.post-63178075496563555162018-06-23T13:50:16.128-05:002018-06-23T13:50:16.128-05:00Christianity is not a "cause", it is som...Christianity is not a "cause", it is something much more than that - it is "the way, the truth, the life".<br /><br />The only "cause" on display here is Met Kallistos', the majority contributors/editors of the reformist "The Wheel", and their supporters to convince the Faithful that a confused mix of anthropology from the Enlightenment (the fickle Cartesian self on the one hand, a contradictory material determinism/essentialism on the other) is in some way compatible with Christianity. Jakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16152024447008244670noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-73042886598650075.post-53802517964382668212018-06-23T12:04:28.548-05:002018-06-23T12:04:28.548-05:00You're right Jake, Met. Kallistos and I both t...You're right Jake, Met. Kallistos and I both take the time to try to understand the issue we are speaking about, rather than using made up words with zero currency and employing the logic of children who are just learning grammar. Again, everyone is entitled to disagree with Met. Kallistos, but at least do the minimum amount of investigation. As it is, you greatly discredit the very cause you imagine you're defending.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-73042886598650075.post-52585005116046199422018-06-23T12:03:58.106-05:002018-06-23T12:03:58.106-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-73042886598650075.post-18378673227519495412018-06-23T11:04:08.275-05:002018-06-23T11:04:08.275-05:00homosexualism as an essential identity is not &quo...homosexualism as an essential identity is not "complex", it is simple. A person might be "a drunk", an "angry man", a "lazy person", etc. However, the person is not really these things. A person is NOT their sin.<br /><br />Homosexualism assumes a person is essentially their sin - such that even "love" as you put it is dependent upon the prior identification of "gay". <br /><br />In other words, you like Met. Kallistos forward because he makes the error of assuming homosexualism, whereas you don't like Fr. John's essay because he exposes this error...Jakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16152024447008244670noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-73042886598650075.post-955867867684663192018-06-22T14:35:30.299-05:002018-06-22T14:35:30.299-05:00Of course. Fr. John’s response is very problematic...Of course. Fr. John’s response is very problematic. I’ll only list the most glaring issues here for the sake of time. I always find it incredible when priests take the time to spill so much ink refuting what they perceive to be liberalism sneaking into the Church on the issue of homosexuality, and then entirely fail to substantively address gay people at all. <br /><br />Look at the paragraph in which he asserts that if the requirement of celibacy is too great for homosexuals then single heterosexuals who cannot find a spouse should be relieved of that burden as well. To make this comparison is simply shocking because it betrays how little thought has gone into the actual topic. Comparing heterosexuals (the vast majority of whom will at some point marry, and many more than once, with the blessing of the Church) to homosexuals who absolutely 100% never have the chance to marry is absurd. Even the heterosexual who may not marry until he is 60 still gets to live in the hope of marriage, dating with the expectation of finding someone. Whereas, the homosexual could fall in love and yet be required to do away with that as there is no way to express it that can be blessed. <br /><br />Now none of that is to say the traditional view of homosexuality is wrong, not at all. Met. Kallistos could be wrong indeed, but at least he cares about the issue! These counter pieces evidence total disregard for gay people in general. Even if absolute celibacy is to be the requirement then we need to acknowledge the ways in which the Church has failed to minister to gay people and how few resources there are in the Church for people to live as life long celibates outside of a monastic context. It is extremely difficult to take persons like Fr. John Cox seriously when he doesn’t seem to have even fully considered the complexity of the issue to start with. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-73042886598650075.post-18432079458776040592018-06-22T13:32:23.274-05:002018-06-22T13:32:23.274-05:00Care to enlighten us?
For a more detailed analysi...Care to enlighten us?<br /><br />For a more detailed analysis, there's this: https://blogs.ancientfaith.com/orthodoxyandheterodoxy/2018/06/16/anatomy-of-a-foreword-metr-kallistos-on-sexual-morality/<br />Brantley Hobbshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02847021322721436245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-73042886598650075.post-38614325446964588002018-06-22T12:59:21.761-05:002018-06-22T12:59:21.761-05:00It amazes me how people will completely go out of ...It amazes me how people will completely go out of their way to miss the point of an article...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-73042886598650075.post-21360947522480381672018-06-21T17:11:58.895-05:002018-06-21T17:11:58.895-05:00I wonder, is a person who intentionally defaces an...I wonder, is a person who intentionally defaces and destroys an icon little by little day after day any better than someone who intentionally defaces many icons?Michael Baumanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03025213649848660526noreply@blogger.com