tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-73042886598650075.post1439227390433516526..comments2024-03-22T11:37:52.668-05:00Comments on Byzantine, Texas: On the Ancient of Days iconByzantine, TXhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17845681957622343484noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-73042886598650075.post-11742572884272214472013-03-05T08:43:42.424-06:002013-03-05T08:43:42.424-06:00Thanks, Father. I'll add that link to the post...Thanks, Father. I'll add that link to the post.Byzantine, TXhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17845681957622343484noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-73042886598650075.post-81196511958194645732013-03-05T07:11:07.256-06:002013-03-05T07:11:07.256-06:00The only problem with interpreting the Ancient of ...The only problem with interpreting the Ancient of Days in Daniel 7 as being Christ is that this has no basis in the Fathers or the Services of the Church, which say quite the opposite, for example:<br /><br />“The Son of Man shall come to the Father, according to the Scripture which was just now read, “on the clouds of heaven,” [Daniel 7:9] drawn by a stream of fire [Daniel 7:10], which is to make trial of men. Then if any man’s works are of gold, he shall be made brighter; if any man’s course of life be like stubble, and unsubstantial, it shall be burnt up by the fire. And the Father “shall sit, having His garment white as snow, and the hair of His head like pure wool” [Daniel 7:9]. But this is spoken after the manner of men; wherefore? Because He is the King of those who have not been defiled with sins; for, He says, I will make your sins white as snow, and as wool, which is an emblem of forgiveness of sins, or of sinlessness itself. But the Lord who shall come from heaven on the clouds, is He who ascended on the clouds; for He Himself hath said, And they shall see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory (Catechetical Lectures, Lecture XV, NPNF2, Vol 7, page 110).<br /><br />“Let us, however, resume once more our theme. The Lord said to my Lord, Sit at my right hand. Do you see the equality of status? Where there is a throne, you see, there is a symbol of kingship; where there is one throne, the equality of status comes from the same kingship. Hence Paul also said, “He made his angels winds, and his servants flames of fire. But of the Son: Your throne, O God, is forever.” Thus, too, Daniel sees all creation in attendance, both angels and archangels, by contrast with the Son of Man coming on the clouds and advancing to the Ancient of Days. If our speaking in these terms is a problem for some, however, let them hear that he is seated at his right hand, and be free of the problem. I mean, as we do not claim he is greater than the Father for having the most honorable seat at his right hand, so you for your part do not say he is inferior and less honorable, but of equal status and honor. This, in fact, is indicated by the sharing of the seat.” St. John Chrysostom, Commentary on Psalm 110<br /><br />The Octoechos, Tone 5, Midnight Office Canon to the Holy and Life Creating Trinity, Ode 4, first troparion:<br /><br />“Daniel was initiated into the mystery of the threefold splendour of the one Dominion when he beheld Christ the Judge going unto the Father while the Spirit revealed the vision.” HTM Pentecostarion (which includes this text from the Octoechos), p. 270<br /><br />“Μυείται τής μιάς Κυριότητος, τό τριφαές ο Δανιήλ, Χριστόν κριτήν θεασάμενος, πρός τόν Πατέρα ιόντα, καί Πνεύμα τό προφαίνον τήν όρασιν.” Ωδή δ’ πλ. α’, ΤΟ ΜΕΣΟΝΥΚΤΙΚΟΝ<br /><br />And there is a lot more where those quotes came from.<br /><br />See: http://www.saintjonah.org/articles/ancientofdays.htmFr. John Whitefordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03455863282054302939noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-73042886598650075.post-61391082980405117172013-03-04T21:23:28.339-06:002013-03-04T21:23:28.339-06:00Anyone who paints an Icon of the Father must be th...Anyone who paints an Icon of the Father must be the most spiritual and holy of not only iconographers, but of all Christians in the history of the Church. Since no one has seen the Father but the Son, to be on par with the Son is just awe-inspiring. More power to them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com