tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-73042886598650075.post2368661742699559144..comments2024-03-22T11:37:52.668-05:00Comments on Byzantine, Texas: Anti-ecumenism "council" to be held in UkraineByzantine, TXhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17845681957622343484noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-73042886598650075.post-13126151629585648122017-04-27T13:02:21.968-05:002017-04-27T13:02:21.968-05:00And my point this is some vicar bishop somewhere i...And my point this is some vicar bishop somewhere in Ukraine with no power, authority, and means to do anything important. He does it most likely on a request of Patr. Cyril or Metr. Humphrey to gather all the whining types in one place and not let them go out. Kinda like Chaplin. And I suppose he will receive the exact same treatment as Chaplin when he tries to do anything on his own.mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05572603372579540256noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-73042886598650075.post-54546546587258225622017-04-26T15:46:34.378-05:002017-04-26T15:46:34.378-05:00So much of this is classic internet-o-doxy. First,...So much of this is classic internet-o-doxy. First, no Patriarch can be adequately judged apart from his brother Patriarchs. This seems to be a well-hewn principle of canon law, and one to which even the blessed Patriarch Nikon of the Russian Church appealed in the 17th Century. Certainly this was true in the case of Pope Vigilius, Pope Honorius, and even St. John Chrysostom (his brother Patriarch of Alexandria convened the Synod of the Oak). Second, if bishops are a part of this and anathematize the Ecumenical Patriarch's person (rather than heresies he allegedly espouses and then calling upon him to categorically deny and anathematize these heresies), then they must be willing also to anathematize all those who do not follow suit and who continue, after fair notice, to remain in communion with the EP. <br /><br />I really wonder if some of this is zeal not according to knowledge. I hate anti-canonical ecumenism, and I hate relativistic diplomat-speak coming from the mouths of Christ's bishops. Nevertheless, nothing has been dogmatized or formally promulgated that explicitly denies the fact that Orthodoxy is the one holy catholic and apostolic Church. If the EP is a heretic, God will separate him in due time. <br /><br />How long, though, did the Church bear with the ever more imperialistic claims of the Roman See? First, they began to take literally the Roman-style exclamations of praise that other sees also received (for instance, the Pope of Alexandria's titles include: 13th Apostle, New Pharaoh, and Judge of the Universe), and to exaggerate its canonical role as a teacher of the oikoumene and stalwart of Nicene Orthodoxy to the exclusion of other Apostolic sees. It took its role of pastoral unifier and resolver of canonical disputations to mean that it had universal immediate jurisdiction over all believers, could not err, need not listen to the rest of the Church (esp the Eastern half) and was essentially the sine qua non of ecclesial validity. This didn't happen over night. Non-commemoration in the diptychs and the promulgation of the patristic doctrines regarding the Holy Spirit's procession didn't occur until much later. Even then, people like St. Mark of Ephesus were open to reunion and to the canonically sanctioned version of Roman/Petrine primacy. This was a process of alienation and the perversion of the Orthodox dogmas of the Trinity in the West, first out of ignorance of the Greek patristic teaching, and then willful error. <br /><br />My point is that this was a process, and the holy fathers of every age were willing to seek unity based upon the truth and were not so quick to hand out anathemata, even when people really deserved them. Isaachttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04085541008709908547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-73042886598650075.post-3379464243602400492017-04-25T14:02:02.628-05:002017-04-25T14:02:02.628-05:00Glory be to God!
The time is long overdue for tho...Glory be to God!<br /><br />The time is long overdue for those who adhere to the Orthodoxy of the Holy Church fathers to take a stand against the ecumenists and modernists. The pan-heresy of ecumenism as set forth by the Cretan robber synod must be exposed!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-73042886598650075.post-83583462329557867642017-04-25T05:26:15.979-05:002017-04-25T05:26:15.979-05:00Oh....this is going to end well....Oh....this is going to end well....REMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16926875247610873761noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-73042886598650075.post-75607012773286471832017-04-24T21:25:51.993-05:002017-04-24T21:25:51.993-05:00"Bishop Longin has also taken a strict stance..."Bishop Longin has also taken a strict stance in regards to Patriarch Kirill’s February, 2016 joint declaration with Pope Francis."<br /><br />What does that mean? A "strict stance"?<br /><br />That the two men shouldn't have met? That they shouldn't have said anything about it? That what they said was heresy? Honestly, what's this all about? rick allenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07612435616018593956noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-73042886598650075.post-4004799274386893072017-04-24T20:25:14.591-05:002017-04-24T20:25:14.591-05:00Only the ecumenists are declaring their decisions ...Only the ecumenists are declaring their decisions to be binding upon the universal Church ahead of time. A meeting of bishops is a council, whether a it is assured, valid or true, God will declare it.maximushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01086218903799586114noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-73042886598650075.post-367614854852933822017-04-24T20:12:09.849-05:002017-04-24T20:12:09.849-05:00Because some forces are treating these events as b...Because some forces are treating these events as binding and silencing detractors. This is also how schisms are started.Byzantine, TXhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17845681957622343484noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-73042886598650075.post-27740117863562349592017-04-24T20:08:23.638-05:002017-04-24T20:08:23.638-05:00I don't see why the word "council" h...I don't see why the word "council" has to carry so much weight. It's just a meeting where people get together to talk about stuff and maybe make decisions. I had a council with my dog yesterday. The Jester of Qihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06015274629532918121noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-73042886598650075.post-52708436216250118582017-04-24T17:35:41.320-05:002017-04-24T17:35:41.320-05:00I think it's still to early to call it such. I...I think it's still to early to call it such. I don't even call Crete a council. Byzantine, TXhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17845681957622343484noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-73042886598650075.post-33870406884706526302017-04-24T17:25:55.876-05:002017-04-24T17:25:55.876-05:00Why is the word council in quotes?Why is the word council in quotes?maximushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01086218903799586114noreply@blogger.com