tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-73042886598650075.post278184658940621005..comments2024-03-22T11:37:52.668-05:00Comments on Byzantine, Texas: GOA contextualizes recent jounces in operationsByzantine, TXhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17845681957622343484noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-73042886598650075.post-66588343482376242432020-10-13T00:17:03.045-05:002020-10-13T00:17:03.045-05:00A leading role in American society? Huh? If the ...A leading role in American society? Huh? If the hierarchs could speak for 5 minutes without saying things that are so silly they might get more attention, maybe some of it good.bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14039146105983736459noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-73042886598650075.post-27650236488865604362020-10-10T17:18:06.479-05:002020-10-10T17:18:06.479-05:00Elpidophoros, the smiley autocrat.
Bartholomew, t...Elpidophoros, the smiley autocrat. <br />Bartholomew, the grumpycat Pope.<br /><br />“The beatings will continue until morale improves.”Lance H.https://www.blogger.com/profile/16533031442254954096noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-73042886598650075.post-39152681743982822582020-10-09T14:13:20.625-05:002020-10-09T14:13:20.625-05:00I hear you B B, I guess I just don't weigh thi...I hear you B B, I guess I just don't weigh things the same. For example, I think the whole usual (excepting OCA and perhaps ROCOR) 'ethnic jurisdictional' model is already and fundamentally what you (somewhat erroneously) call the 'papal model' and already essentially an "auxiliary bishop" situation. Making it explicit such as how the Antiochians have done is in the very least more honest. Also, the Assembly of Bishops is largely impotent and irrelevant in either circumstance.<br /><br />Perhaps you have a point about bishops relationships with their parishes/people, but I suspect that too is basically unaffected either way - this is more up to the individual bishop and his level of commitment and energy.Jakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16152024447008244670noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-73042886598650075.post-89866230294632084842020-10-09T13:41:56.039-05:002020-10-09T13:41:56.039-05:00Of course it does. If they "do the Antiochian...Of course it does. If they "do the Antiochian," they will end up with a single ruling hierarch and however many powerless auxiliary bishops. The efforts to cultivate personal responsibility and authority for and within individual dioceses (metropolises) will evaporate. <br /><br />With that, such a change would move the Greek Archdiocese closer to a papal model, which seems to be the general interest of the Ecumenical Patriarchate generally. Further, there will no longer be any American-born ruling hierarchs in the GOA.<br /><br />It would make a mockery, as the Antiochian decision did, of an American "eparchy". There will be no synod of bishops as it will be a synod of one. A notable side-effect is that the heretofore impotent Assembly of Bishops in America will be rendered utterly irrelevant.<br />B Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08129821596831863015noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-73042886598650075.post-90954650465017174402020-10-09T13:30:43.618-05:002020-10-09T13:30:43.618-05:00Even for those in GOARCH, does any of this really ...Even for those in GOARCH, does any of this really matter beyond the daily minutiae of internal "administration"? The fundamentals of Orthodox ecclesiology and the context of it in 'jurisdictional' NA will remain the same no matter what they do.Jakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16152024447008244670noreply@blogger.com