tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-73042886598650075.post2915691607583530525..comments2024-03-22T11:37:52.668-05:00Comments on Byzantine, Texas: 10 Reasons Bivocational Ministry MattersByzantine, TXhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17845681957622343484noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-73042886598650075.post-67651975981802274242019-10-05T09:32:48.700-05:002019-10-05T09:32:48.700-05:00If I might add, I think we need to observe Canon l...If I might add, I think we need to observe Canon law and make NO ONE under age 30 a priest. Let younger, qualified seminary graduates remain deacons under the tutalege of older, experienced priests. The OCA and ROCOR seem to have a good supply of deacons, and the services certainly call for them.<br /> As for all this complaining about bishops, I wouldn't want their position for anything. You get a bishop like the late Metropolitan Philip Saliba, who would walk around clean shaven, with a suit and Roman collar. People complain,"Oh, a man of this world, well fed, well clothed, and well groomed." You get a bishop of traditional appearance, like ROCOR Metropolitan Filaret or Archbishop Dimitri of Dallas. Then people squawk,"Where does he think he is, 19th century Russia?" Yet the remains of those two Hierarchs are incorrupt.BorisJojicjhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02796218761394313699noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-73042886598650075.post-45719128118394687432019-09-27T13:47:33.472-05:002019-09-27T13:47:33.472-05:00"You had me at "TPS reports"."..."You had me at "TPS reports"."<br /><br />Me too. One of handful of movies I own<br /><br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fy3rjQGc6lAJakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16152024447008244670noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-73042886598650075.post-23812006094645999582019-09-26T20:10:42.825-05:002019-09-26T20:10:42.825-05:00Bishops are a different thing altogether. Their o...Bishops are a different thing altogether. Their only vocation is being single full time. They need a task more than most people who actually work. That is in addition to having somebody else dress them.bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14039146105983736459noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-73042886598650075.post-54867461627168428962019-09-26T12:55:49.802-05:002019-09-26T12:55:49.802-05:00You had me at "TPS reports".
Oh, and re...You had me at "TPS reports".<br /><br />Oh, and regarding point 10, I can assure you that into my second decade of parish council membership (including warden), reading and serving in the altar (first as a reader and now as a subdeacon), and having seen close up and personal how priests and deacons are treated, there is no way that you would find me seeking the priesthood.<br /><br />I speak only for myself here. I will say that I agree with your sentiment totally; it takes a special kind of man to serve as a pastor, and you don't know if you're ready for it unless you get to see it from the inside.Brantley Hobbshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02847021322721436245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-73042886598650075.post-83165800677577060152019-09-26T12:13:45.328-05:002019-09-26T12:13:45.328-05:00“You pay peanuts, you get a monkey”.
The ROCOR sta...“You pay peanuts, you get a monkey”.<br />The ROCOR status quo on the west coast cripples Church life in the OCA as well: the overqualified-underpaid clergy-as-saintly-professional became a cultural norm in the emergency years of Russian forced expatriation but has metastasized beyond even the Mission Deanery. <br />Reliance on nil payment to priests as a way of increasing viability of missions has only created an entire Deanery of parishes unwilling to ever man up to being full-fledged. And the succession of clergy to replace retired ‘bivocational’ Clergy into such parishes inured of constitutional flakiness poses an existential threat to the future of OCA mission in the West. VanOldenPhatthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01397386244607513016noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-73042886598650075.post-75734746421706353242019-09-26T10:41:41.031-05:002019-09-26T10:41:41.031-05:00There is a difference between filling a need with ...There is a difference between filling a need with an ad hoc response and pretending like bivocational ministry is an actual solution. Byzantine, TXhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17845681957622343484noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-73042886598650075.post-12515187648236744772019-09-26T10:17:50.331-05:002019-09-26T10:17:50.331-05:00i know many bishops who need a bivocational minist...i know many bishops who need a bivocational ministry,,,, for the past 50 years i have yet to meet one who understands their flock and how to organically increase it. excellent perspective,,,,,,this is why, in his brilliance met antony bashir brought a circle of former protestants around him as advisors and why the russian mission was involved with americans -- they needed to survive in america,,,,pragmatic experiences are needed to grow the church.r j klanckohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18000371679565046691noreply@blogger.com