tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-73042886598650075.post3628801238528222424..comments2024-03-22T11:37:52.668-05:00Comments on Byzantine, Texas: "Enhancing" the role of the Ecumenical PatriarchByzantine, TXhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17845681957622343484noreply@blogger.comBlogger24125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-73042886598650075.post-1421530047892467672017-07-31T08:45:42.767-05:002017-07-31T08:45:42.767-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.BorisJojicjhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02796218761394313699noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-73042886598650075.post-87748498086558660702017-07-31T08:44:11.059-05:002017-07-31T08:44:11.059-05:00I will say this, the EP was helpful to those Ortho...I will say this, the EP was helpful to those Orthodox living in countries that were part of the Russian Empire after the collapse of Tsarist Russia. For political reasons, ROCOR could not operate in Poland, Finland, or the Baltic countries. Thus, the EP gave autocephaly to the Polish church, autonomy to the Finnish church, and provided Metropolitans for Latvia and Estonia.<br /> On the other hand, Constantinople interfered with the Czechoslovak mission, which was part of the Serbian Orthodox church. The Czech bishop Gorazd, who was martyred by the Nazis, headed this church. The EP appointed a Czech bishop of their own, Savvaty. I suspect there may have been some Masonic skullduggery here; the Czech government with Presidents Masaryk and Benes, was full of them.BorisJojicjhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02796218761394313699noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-73042886598650075.post-30098714559388548092017-07-31T08:09:17.088-05:002017-07-31T08:09:17.088-05:00The universal claims actually started before the T...The universal claims actually started before the Turkokratia. And the claims were expressed by many Saints. I revere the office but I share your sentiments in re: to the contemporary EPsmaximushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01086218903799586114noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-73042886598650075.post-41524856538734885442017-07-31T07:50:26.506-05:002017-07-31T07:50:26.506-05:00Thanks Patriarch of Constantinople has been strang...Thanks Patriarch of Constantinople has been strangled by Islamic rule. It started with the EP being appointed the head of the Christian Rum in the Islamic empire therefore having to buy the office. IMO the EP ceased then. <br /><br />It should have been left vacant. <br /><br />I have not now nor have I ever had any reverence for the EP. To do that without acts of holiness is idolatry. <br /><br />I reverence my local bishop because he is a man with a heart for Christ and full of love. A Sheppard to his people. <br /><br />When the EP starts showing that instead of playing Kabuki Theater with his heretic buddy in Rome, and running around with all of the famous snti-Christians he can find, I would start to care. Unfortunately, in his desperate attempt to overcome his irrelevance he has become malignant. Of course that is what happens to body parts that have lost their blood supply.<br /><br />Faithful Greeks need to wake up and stop this nonesense. <br /><br /><br />Michael Baumanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03025213649848660526noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-73042886598650075.post-91473430973279019562017-07-31T06:13:01.637-05:002017-07-31T06:13:01.637-05:00http://www.rocorstudies.org/2012/02/24/metropolita...http://www.rocorstudies.org/2012/02/24/metropolitan-anthony-khrapovitskii-how-would-we-have-treated-the-pope-had-he-converted-to-orthodoxy/maximushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01086218903799586114noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-73042886598650075.post-65211080070635546642017-07-30T20:59:41.752-05:002017-07-30T20:59:41.752-05:00This has been going on a long time. It's going...This has been going on a long time. It's going to take more than dismissive pop apologetics to refute the EPs papal pretensions. <br /><br />http://classicalchristianity.com/2015/03/26/on-ecumenical-patriarchal-claims-to-universality/maximushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01086218903799586114noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-73042886598650075.post-26155663654223790542017-07-30T20:44:50.847-05:002017-07-30T20:44:50.847-05:00Boris,
I'm not trying support the EP per se; ...Boris,<br /><br />I'm not trying support the EP per se; especially + Bart and his agenda. IMO the EP has been a scandal since before Metaxakis. Nevertheless, what I posted can't merely be ignored. The EP was granted the powers of the Pope of the first millennium by the Church. Therefore, these claims can't be disregarded so easily. <br /><br />St. John Maximovitch <br /><br />Such an outward abasement of the hierarch of the city of St. Constantine, which was once the capital of the ecumene, has not caused reverence toward him to be shaken among Orthodox Christians, who revere the See of Sts. Chrysostom and Gregory the Theologian. From the height of this See the successor of Sts. John and Gregory could spiritually guide the whole Orthodox world, if only he possessed their firmness in the defense of righteousness and truth… (On the Decline of the Ecumenical Patriarch)maximushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01086218903799586114noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-73042886598650075.post-276161174199950082017-07-30T19:40:10.874-05:002017-07-30T19:40:10.874-05:00StabbedStabbedBorisJojicjhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02796218761394313699noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-73042886598650075.post-5791454118203317742017-07-30T18:01:37.245-05:002017-07-30T18:01:37.245-05:00Nice try, buddy roe. Problem is the EP stavbe Russ...Nice try, buddy roe. Problem is the EP stavbe Russia in the back; while St. Tikhon the Patriarch was struggling for the church, the EP was supporting the heretical living church. So you'll pardon us if we don't buy into your BS. If it were not for Russia, most Greeks today would be speaking Turkish and praying to Mecca. Fact!BorisJojicjhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02796218761394313699noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-73042886598650075.post-13750136396474997602017-07-30T17:27:01.485-05:002017-07-30T17:27:01.485-05:00Food for thought:
After the failure of the counci...Food for thought:<br /><br />After the failure of the council of Florence (1439) and the fall of the Eastern Roman Empire (1453), the patriarchate of Constantinople (‘New Rome’) progressively assumed in the East the ecumenical privileges of the ‘Old Rome’ whose past prerogatives were thus indirectly recognized. At the council of Moscow in 1592, the ‘apostolic Throne’ of Constantinople agreed to the establishment of a patriarchate in Moscow but proclaimed itself “head and primate of the other patriarchates.” A few years later, the patriarchal and synodical tomos of 1663 contained the following question and answer: <br /><br />Q: Can the judgment of other churches be brought to appeal to the throne of Constantinople and can this throne resolve all ecclesiastical cases? <br /><br />A: This privilege was that of the pope before the tearing asunder of the Church by presumption and wickedness. But since the Church1 is now torn, all the cases of the other Churches are brought to the throne of Constantinople, which will pronounce the sentence inasmuch as according to the canons, this see as the same primacy as ancient Rome. Fr. L. Cleenewerck<br /><br />Met. Anthony Khrapovitsky 1863-1936<br /><br />According to the doctrine of Christ’s Church as expressed in the decisions of the Seven Ecumenical Councils, the See of Constantinople is not only one of the Ecclesiastical Provinces but is considered as a constant element of the Orthodox Church in all its fullness, as an authority linked not only with its own diocese but likewise with the whole Orthodox Church throughout the world. This is why since the fifth century the Patriarch of Constantinople as Bishop of New Rome was recognized by the Ecumenical Councils as the equal in power and honor of the Bishop of Old Rome (Canon II of the Second Ecumenical Council and Canons XXVIII and XXXVI of the Fourth Ecumenical Council). And what is especially important, it was recognized that he had the right to receive the appeals of Bishops who were not satisfied with the decisions of regional councils (Canon XVII of the Fourth Ecumenical Council). In this latter sense the Patriarch of Constantinople is, in the eyes of Orthodox Christians in every country, the supreme judge. (Message to the Statesmen Assembled at the Lausanne Political Conference Dec. 1922-Jan. 1923. Fouyas, Orthodoxy, Roman Catholicism and Anglicanism pp. 128-129)maximushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01086218903799586114noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-73042886598650075.post-75203611010028617862017-07-30T13:21:29.138-05:002017-07-30T13:21:29.138-05:00TNH's condemnation of the monasteries founded ...TNH's condemnation of the monasteries founded by Elder Ephraim is equally misguided.nicolehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17841951925205576231noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-73042886598650075.post-27333522112680909992017-07-29T18:32:24.371-05:002017-07-29T18:32:24.371-05:00Compare 28 minutes in.
https://youtu.be/SiOte1AyZ...Compare 28 minutes in.<br /><br />https://youtu.be/SiOte1AyZMwByzantine, TXhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17845681957622343484noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-73042886598650075.post-62653332167272559812017-07-29T18:18:02.214-05:002017-07-29T18:18:02.214-05:00It is the National Herald. I don't know if the...It is the National Herald. I don't know if they've published stuff worse than this, but it's not that much of an outlier.<br />+Fr. PeterVirgil Petrisorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05467744522668766048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-73042886598650075.post-11972661266944189042017-07-29T18:13:30.632-05:002017-07-29T18:13:30.632-05:00I'm wondering if this is a trial balloon...I'm wondering if this is a trial balloon...Caradochttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03211870051168996516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-73042886598650075.post-73925295055890081502017-07-29T18:07:07.179-05:002017-07-29T18:07:07.179-05:00The poor fellow who wrote this article clearly has...The poor fellow who wrote this article clearly has no idea what Orthodox ecclesiology is all about. He's literally clueless. End of discussion.Timmyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06833797224685670708noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-73042886598650075.post-88259311287162866692017-07-29T14:11:17.072-05:002017-07-29T14:11:17.072-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.BorisJojicjhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02796218761394313699noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-73042886598650075.post-5615638007682580852017-07-29T14:10:32.273-05:002017-07-29T14:10:32.273-05:00Accidentally, cell phone malfunction.Accidentally, cell phone malfunction.BorisJojicjhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02796218761394313699noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-73042886598650075.post-35061324885557291452017-07-29T14:09:39.620-05:002017-07-29T14:09:39.620-05:00Let him simply become the Uniate Patriarch of Cons...Let him simply become the Uniate Patriarch of Constantinople, if he believes in the papal concept. Let those Greeks and any of his dependencies follow him into union with Rome if they wish.<br /> We're in need of a Byzantine Emperor, another Constantine, to kick butt. It may happen, because after the Turks "accident my" shot down a Russian place not so long ago, Putin allegedly said that he could make Constantinople a Christian city again, if need be.BorisJojicjhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02796218761394313699noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-73042886598650075.post-30649960963112107942017-07-29T13:59:12.969-05:002017-07-29T13:59:12.969-05:00Oh, my. From bishop of nothing to bishop of every...Oh, my. From bishop of nothing to bishop of everything....that's quite a promotion.Deacon Nicholashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02808015295973601427noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-73042886598650075.post-38963431381987793452017-07-29T13:42:20.211-05:002017-07-29T13:42:20.211-05:00Well, rarely have seen such a fine example of aggr...Well, rarely have seen such a fine example of aggressive, arrogant ignorance. This piece should be archived as a perfect example of the sin of hubris. <br /><br />Of course living in a nihilistic age, it will have far more traction than one would hope and expect. <br /><br />And that is the real problem -- addressing the demonic oppression of the nihilistic spirit of this age that permeates everything especially my own heart and soul. <br /><br />The Church has everything needed to do it and the first place to start is not with dialog and understanding it is with the anathema. <br /><br />Nihilism gives literally nothing with which to dialog. Any such attempt just gives it the energy it lacks on it's own. <br /><br />Give energy to what is right and Holy. Alms, repentance, prayer,fasting and worship. <br /><br />Michael Baumanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03025213649848660526noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-73042886598650075.post-66466664751296707602017-07-29T13:14:08.556-05:002017-07-29T13:14:08.556-05:00I really hope Dennis Menos is a Dennis-the-Menace ...I really hope Dennis Menos is a Dennis-the-Menace inspired pseudonym!Samn!https://www.blogger.com/profile/14142811721903345946noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-73042886598650075.post-13843955839381816862017-07-29T12:35:25.802-05:002017-07-29T12:35:25.802-05:00I wonder who they think the constituency for this ...I wonder who they think the constituency for this would be??Palomnikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02543658872512777512noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-73042886598650075.post-18596161834571814782017-07-29T12:09:58.121-05:002017-07-29T12:09:58.121-05:00"Comments are closed.""Comments are closed."BBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01520147246982910200noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-73042886598650075.post-64276709320121396562017-07-29T12:07:22.326-05:002017-07-29T12:07:22.326-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.BBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01520147246982910200noreply@blogger.com