tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-73042886598650075.post5830510497298785900..comments2024-03-22T11:37:52.668-05:00Comments on Byzantine, Texas: On the death of a marriageByzantine, TXhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17845681957622343484noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-73042886598650075.post-75565859536122273962012-11-14T09:32:14.449-06:002012-11-14T09:32:14.449-06:00In the Orthodox Church, Monica is not venerated fo...In the Orthodox Church, Monica is not venerated for remaining in an abusive relationship. This is not a message we want to teach in our Orthodox Church although historically I know the example of a person like Monica staying in an abusive marriage was abused wives. In this way the victims were abused twice: physically by their husbands and spiritually by the Roman Catholic Church. We can all say that Thank God those days are over.Steve_Barriehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01700596373993979010noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-73042886598650075.post-28344449516852135512012-11-13T22:24:03.693-06:002012-11-13T22:24:03.693-06:00Perhaps a better question is "Are there any s...Perhaps a better question is "Are there any saints who abused their wives?" Steve Robinsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04319784922747041297noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-73042886598650075.post-818735946733140122012-11-13T13:10:53.450-06:002012-11-13T13:10:53.450-06:00I know priests who have told a woman fearing for h...I know priests who have told a woman fearing for her life -- with just cause, owing to a homicidal and relentlessly abusive husband -- that the marriage was long dead, and that the Church neither asks nor requires her to remain in such a situation. Divorce was counseled precisely as that "amputation" from intent to save a life. A readerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00330876142449304359noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-73042886598650075.post-65748309057154039182012-11-13T11:36:29.606-06:002012-11-13T11:36:29.606-06:00Both worthy questions. Canonically the Church simp...Both worthy questions. Canonically the Church simply affirms the reality of a marriage that has died. It does not kill the marriage. So, I think we can agree that this is a lamentable state to be in, but as to how righteous or mainstream this belief is? I can only speak anecdotally. Should we always keep trying with our marriages regardless of how painful the experience might be? Certainly there is some holiness in bearing ones burdens and praying for the marriage and the spouse, but is there blame or fault in being unable to do so? Byzantine, TXhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17845681957622343484noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-73042886598650075.post-9523722477350862742012-11-13T09:56:34.333-06:002012-11-13T09:56:34.333-06:00How "radical" or "mainstream" ...How "radical" or "mainstream" is this advice?CJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13883761718979175423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-73042886598650075.post-53786531482939102532012-11-12T19:16:57.718-06:002012-11-12T19:16:57.718-06:00Perhaps I missed something in this article, but we...Perhaps I missed something in this article, but we don't honor St. Monica, mother of Augustine, for having the courage to divorce her unloving and unkind husband, we honor her for having the courage to "endure, pray, and humble herself", which eventually saw the salvation of her husband and son. <br /><br />Are there any divorced saints? I'm not trying to be snarky, I really want to know.Monicahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00615854840567638084noreply@blogger.com