tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-73042886598650075.post8115605647633185536..comments2024-03-22T11:37:52.668-05:00Comments on Byzantine, Texas: Melkite Church in "open rebellion"Byzantine, TXhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17845681957622343484noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-73042886598650075.post-24628591500241181512016-06-25T15:20:27.356-05:002016-06-25T15:20:27.356-05:00I am not sure... I think that realistically if th...I am not sure... I think that realistically if the synod were to turn entirely against a patriarch, he would most likely resign.<br /><br />In light of the Chaldean liturgical controversies, I've been hoping for something like that to happen with that Church.Ecclesial Vigilantehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17070187926547373245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-73042886598650075.post-41426394147225965422016-06-24T20:38:32.008-05:002016-06-24T20:38:32.008-05:00But does the code of Eastern Catholic law allow fo...But does the code of Eastern Catholic law allow for a patriarch or major archbishop to be deposed? I agree they should not haven tried an end run with Rome.rhartschttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02005412818602247908noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-73042886598650075.post-63622947242849699182016-06-24T18:47:55.370-05:002016-06-24T18:47:55.370-05:00I think the implication is that the bishops could ...I think the implication is that the bishops could depose him if they joined the synod and could get enough of the other bishops to back their cause. That is the legal way to do things. That is how living Popes and Patriarchs have always been deposed. Remember, Chalcedon led to the deposing of Nestorius and the Sixth Council led to the deposing of the Antiochian patriarch (as well as the anathematizing of a dead Roman pope).<br /><br />By immediately going to Rome and wanting the bureaucrats to interfere, the bishops are playing like Pius IX is still pope. By not getting involved (as of the time I am writing this), it shows that Rome is at least attempting to restore tradition and treat the Eastern Catholics like equal brothers.<br /><br />As for the contested issue, I do not have the information to judge one way of the other. Ecclesial Vigilantehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17070187926547373245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-73042886598650075.post-38242478740260930362016-06-23T14:46:21.724-05:002016-06-23T14:46:21.724-05:00When I first read the story my thoughts were "...When I first read the story my thoughts were "Sounds like a mini-pope. I can't be judged by you mere members of the synod." Where is the accountability of the Primate to the Synod? I hope it is true that the money has been spent for the sake of the refugees since i like the Patriarch and the Melkites. rhartschttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02005412818602247908noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-73042886598650075.post-56066985191894430982016-06-23T13:57:48.309-05:002016-06-23T13:57:48.309-05:00A comment by Filipe YTOL to the post "Gregory...A comment by Filipe YTOL to the post "Gregory III to 'rebel' Melkite bishops" (leading off with the same AsiaNews article as above) on The Byzantine Forum ( http://www.byzcath.org/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/415797/Gregory_III_to_%22rebel&quo#Post415797 )<br /><br />Meanwhile, a friend from Australia sent me this, which he got from a local Melkite aquaintance...<br /><br />"The patriarchate has little money left because it has given it away to relieve the refugees, having had all its infrastructure and assets ruined in the war - beyond the control of the patriarch. Indeed he has been the one to raise money abroad to keep things afloat and to give more aid to the people. contacts here tell me that the ten who have stayed away and now turned on their Father have done little to help or raise money, and blame him for not putting the interests of the church first. The implication of corruption is disgusting. Even worse is a catholic news agency peddling one side's spite. Satan must be exultant. I do not approve of censorship and believe in free speech. But there must be press standards to adhere to if a media outlet is going to call itself Catholic. Gregorios has enemies in Rome for not playing a suitably subordinate role. for the sake of their survival and true to the doctrine of communion. It's a matter of life and death whether the Eastern Churches are supported, respected and materially aided"Tomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13045412639600882073noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-73042886598650075.post-34113265358656374732016-06-23T07:27:54.546-05:002016-06-23T07:27:54.546-05:00Patrimony here is in the literal sense of money an...Patrimony here is in the literal sense of money and real estate.Samn!https://www.blogger.com/profile/14142811721903345946noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-73042886598650075.post-81109373157036202532016-06-23T03:59:16.251-05:002016-06-23T03:59:16.251-05:00Well, having "bankrupted the Church patrimony...Well, having "bankrupted the Church patrimony" sounds quite enigmatical. Are there more details what this conflict is really about?Gaspareshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14498494256022324834noreply@blogger.com