Sr. Vassa: There's no ontological impediment to priestesses
Is the male-only priesthood a discipline or essential to the nature of being a priest? Sr. Vassa (again unflinchingly taking up a contentious topic by climbing up the ladder to the highest platform and then jumping into the deep end head first) dives right in and says there is no reason beyond personal preference to not have female clergy. You know, when people ask me about women in priesthood, they say, 'Sister, why can't women be priests?' And I say, 'Women CAN be priests. We don't WANT them to be priests.' Because you see, God can do anything, and the Church, by divine authority, uh, can do anything, but, the Church doesn't want to - and that's a legitimate reason. What I don't like is when we TRY to pretend that there are other reasons for this, because it's legitimate not to want something, and there are reasons not to want this - right? - but, we shouldn't pretent that there's some... reason, that, for example, the maleness...
Obviously Fr. Theodoros was not attempting to be specific in his definition. None of the anti-ecumenists take issue with Fr. Florovsky, since his brand of ecumenism was to reconcile everyone to the Tradition of the first millenium, IOW, Orthodoxy.
ReplyDeleteYou should really look up Fr. Theodoros' extensive theological formation, background, and experience before you conclude that he is "extremely unreasonable". He has written and spoken on all of the topics you question him on over the course of his career, which has spanned over 50 years. His comments proceed from a wealth of theological and personal experience. At the very least you ought to ask yourself "why" someone of his stature (a Professor and Patrologist at the Aristotle University of Thessaloniki for over 35 years) is making these statements before you dismiss them so flippantly.
ReplyDeleteTry searching, "Protopresbyter Theodoros Zisis (Biographical notes)" & "Fr. Theodoros Zisis' escape from the Babylonian Captivity of Ecumenism", if you are truly interested in beginning to consider more seriously who this man is and the possible reasons behind his comments. No one is saying you need to agree with him, but don't dismiss him by claiming he is uninformed or ignorant.
Just a suggestion.
"seems to lack even a basic familiarity"... Eye of the beholder, I suppose.
ReplyDeleteI wonder, though, if Fr. Theodoros isn't holding the Hierarchy to just such a standard as you mention when he makes the statements he does (especially as they prepare for a Great & Holy Council). The difference being, his statements urge caution and being mindful of the Church's Tradition & saints, as opposed to what he sees as the opposite taking place (a view he has developed as result of his decades of personal involvement in the preparations & consultations).
Point taken about being careful when speaking publicly. To what degree, though, this applies as a criticism to Fr. Theodoros in this instance is a matter of personal opinion, I guess.
Thanks for your comments.