Is the male-only priesthood a discipline or essential to the nature of being a priest? Sr. Vassa (again unflinchingly taking up a contentious topic by climbing up the ladder to the highest platform and then jumping into the deep end head first) dives right in and says there is no reason beyond personal preference to not have female clergy. You know, when people ask me about women in priesthood, they say, 'Sister, why can't women be priests?' And I say, 'Women CAN be priests. We don't WANT them to be priests.' Because you see, God can do anything, and the Church, by divine authority, uh, can do anything, but, the Church doesn't want to - and that's a legitimate reason. What I don't like is when we TRY to pretend that there are other reasons for this, because it's legitimate not to want something, and there are reasons not to want this - right? - but, we shouldn't pretent that there's some... reason, that, for example, the maleness...
Know the words, unquestionably. Know the Spirit and the Person who animates the Scripture, not so much.
ReplyDeleteYou don't know that. Your response is the very essence of judging.
DeleteI think he is on to something. Many in American Orthodoxy have a critical attitude toward the Evangelical convert. I watched Dr. DB Hart's presentation at Fordham recently, and he is very concerned that these Evangelicals are going to give a character to American Orthodoxy that, well, he does not like. I don't share his concern on several levels (not the least in the obvious pride he takes in his worldly intellectualism), but he also fails to grasp several positives that these Evangelical converts usually have as a natural part of their background. Met. Hilarion is seeing the positive.
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ReplyDeleteI think we should worry more about evangelical converts who -don't- know the Bible. Many of today's 'evangelicals' in the so-called 'emergent' churches know very little about the Bible, not even in the slanted, historically ignorant way of an earlier generation of evangelicals. But Met. Hilarion is right to recommend Orthodox believers study the scriptures. These are -our- scriptures-- shouldn't we be embarrassed that non-Orthodox know them better than we do? Often the anti-Protestant and anti-convert things I sometimes hear strike me as mere sour grapes.
ReplyDeleteBut what do I know? I'm just one of those evangelical converts-- only been in the Church three decades now. We passed through Anglicanism-- having gone there because, hmm, the Baptists and Pentecostals who taught us to believe the Bible somehow didn't believe the Bible when it said "This IS my body" and suchlike..... We kept moving east because we discovered Anglicanism was going farther away from the apostolic faith just at the same time as we were travelling ever deeper into that faith....only to find Orthodoxy had kept that apostolic faith very much alive all these centuries. Maybe here in Canada our evangelicals aren't quite the same as in the US, who knows... :)
You can say that again, Matushka.
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DeleteI come from a Calvinist background, but attended Lutheran and Catholic schools growing up in the US. Here in Russia I am often surprised by the number of otherwise dedicated Orthodox Christians who don't seem to read the Bible at all. They read the Fathers, they know a lot of quotes, but they seen to treat the Bible as a source that only the Fathers should delve into. Many priest-authors have been addressing this lately, and the Moscow Diocese organises an annual year-long event with daily readings to be able to finish the Bible in a year. We're already a month and a half in now, And it's wonderful!
ReplyDeleteIt is very important to know Sacred Scripture. It is a good rule of thumb to read one verse per day from the New Testament beginning at St Matthew and ending at Revelation....in addition to one Psalm every day. Also, we should not neglect the Old Testament and read at least one of the recommended books during the Great Fast.
DeleteBut I will also add: It is equally important to know the proper interpretation of Sacred Scripture...and we glean this through the holy fathers.
During many years of immersion into very american Christianity my knowledge of scripture was a source of pride.
ReplyDeleteWhen I encountered and eventually converted to Orthodoxy I had already nearly abandoned any regular scripture reading or study, but rejoiced as I discover them anew in Liturgy and other services.
It is like meeting old friends you knew as a child with a renewed appreciation and love for them along with a new relevance and context in my life.