Is the male-only priesthood a discipline or essential to the nature of being a priest? Sr. Vassa (again unflinchingly taking up a contentious topic by climbing up the ladder to the highest platform and then jumping into the deep end head first) dives right in and says there is no reason beyond personal preference to not have female clergy. You know, when people ask me about women in priesthood, they say, 'Sister, why can't women be priests?' And I say, 'Women CAN be priests. We don't WANT them to be priests.' Because you see, God can do anything, and the Church, by divine authority, uh, can do anything, but, the Church doesn't want to - and that's a legitimate reason. What I don't like is when we TRY to pretend that there are other reasons for this, because it's legitimate not to want something, and there are reasons not to want this - right? - but, we shouldn't pretent that there's some... reason, that, for example, the maleness...
Wasn’t there a joint commission set up to discuss the Croatian cardinal? And didn’t John Paul 2 apologize for the atrocities of The crusades? I think there are also intra orthodox problems in Ukraine that can’t be pinned on the UGCC
ReplyDeleteThat is the thing about the Old World, they claim to forgive and yet....pick at the 800 year old scab and see if we can make it bleed again.
ReplyDeleteBravo to both Tom and Bozo2U!
ReplyDeleteThere are problems between the Churches but when do we forgive and when do we grow up? Does Christ's prayer for unity mean nothing?
These are really worn out arguments. The real problem is that certain Patriarchs (many years) simply do not want unity. They will be sorely disappointed, as the Lord will have His way.
ReplyDeleteJonathan is correct regarding the fact that this is a worn out argument. In fact, there is no argument at all. The Holy Orthodox Church is one, holy, catholic, and apostolic. The Latin Church separated more than a thousand years ago and since that time.....they have adopted many innovations and heresies. The true Church is not able to unite with a heretical organization. Rome would have to renounce Her heresies and innovations and beg for forgiveness.
ReplyDeleteThis isn't about "forgiving" someone-- it's about what the truth is. The true faith taught for a thousand years that the eternal hypostatic origin of the Holy Spirit is the Father alone, and interpreted the Gospel sayings of Christ in this way. St. John Damascene recorded this, among many others. If a single letter (homoiousios) could render the truth into heresy, how much more this innovation? Aquinas actually makes bold to cite Maimonides against St. John of Damascus on this point. The Latins doubled down on the error and attempted a style of primacy never before contemplated by the canons, and this after the political fragmentation of the empire.
ReplyDelete" this after the political fragmentation of the empire. "
ReplyDeleteKey. Both the west (Rome/Protestantism) and this Church of the East we are a part are still grappling with the fragmentation and dissolution of the Empire.