Monday, March 4, 2019

In a surprise to no one, EP doesn't want council over Ukraine

There are some sites cranking out anti-EP articles multiple times a day every day of the week. It has gotten to be a deluge. If I were to repost even a tenth of it, I'd be up all day doing so. Some of the articles turn opinion into fact and conjecture into certitude so they won't be reposted without equal space for a contradictory opinion or from an entirely different party with a neutral voice.

On the below, I can't countenance a reason why the EP would want to be present at this meeting. He could hardly chair the event impartially and the optics of it would be horrible. Had the EP intervened to remedy the Qatar situation or had Antioch not pulled out of Crete, things might be different, but as they are now the conciliar process is occluded.

(UOJ) - Patriarch Bartholomew rejected the proposal of the Primate of the Antioch Orthodox Church to hold a pan-Orthodox discussion of the religious situation in Ukraine. 

In a letter to the Primate of the Antiochian Orthodox Church, Patriarch John X, Patriarch Bartholomew of Constantinople declared that "he has good reasons" to refrain from a general Orthodox meeting on the Ukrainian church issue, reports the official website of the Russian Orthodox Church.

Patriarch Bartholomew called the discussion of the religious situation in Ukraine “useless” and reminded the Primate of the Antiochian Church of his refusal to participate in the Crete Council of 2016, which Constantinople had been prepared for a long time.

“After the four Orthodox Churches, from a church and theological point of view without a reason, refused to be present at the Ecumenical Sacred Council, for which there are no excuses, and your ancient Church was one of them, the Ecumenical Patriarchate has good reasons to refrain from such a meeting at the pan-Orthodox a level that will be useless since it will only lead to the agreement that the participants will disagree with each other,” wrote the Patriarch of Constantinople.

According to him, the autocephalous nature of the OCU became a reward for the Church of Ukraine, and the Phanar returned “to the fold of the canonical Church” the members of the UOC KP and the UAOC who were “unfairly” outside it. At the same time, Patriarch Bartholomew assures that he returned the schismatics to the bosom of Orthodoxy exclusively “following church traditions and canons”. Also, the head of the Phanara recalled that he acted "without his interest or pressure".

The Ukrainian Orthodox Church and its Primate, His Beatitude Metropolitan Onufry of Kiev and All Ukraine were not mentioned in the letter by Patriarch Bartholomew.

As early as October 6, 2018, the Synod of the Antioch Patriarchate called for the convening of an extraordinary Assembly of Orthodox Churches on granting autocephaly to Ukraine. The members of the Synod were confident that a one-sided analysis of the situation serves not Orthodox unity but disunity in the Church. The Patriarchate of Constantinople ignored the call of the Church of Antioch on the Ukrainian question and decided to grant the Tomos unilaterally.

On January 29, 2019, during a meeting with Patriarch Kirill of Moscow and All Rus in Moscow, the Primate of the Antioch Church declared his disagreement with the fact that attempts are being made to unilaterally solve a number of church problems that lead to the division of the entire Orthodox world. “We have urged and continue to urge the Ecumenical Patriarch and other higher clergy to solve the existing problems, including the problems that our fraternal Russian Orthodox Church faces now, through dialogue, through negotiations, through ordinary conversation,” the hierarch noted.

Besides the Patriarchate of Antioch, the Primates and Synods of the Polish, Serbian, Cypriot, Romanian Local Churches, as well as the Church of the Czech Lands and Slovakia stated the need to convene a Pan-Orthodox Council on the Ukrainian issue.


  1. Dang, I was still hoping, however unrealistically, that the EP would just bite the bullet and call a council. I guess we'll just have to see what happens...

  2. Nor are the nationalists receiving uniates as the goal is union wihe both Romes. Sounds like a plan!

  3. Ah I see. So unless everyone already agrees before they show up, theres no point in an ecumenical council? I wonder how the 7 Ecumenical Councils managed to succeed. No room for the Holy Spirit?

    More accurately he should admit, theres no point in a council (in his opinion) unless everyone submits to his decrees.

    1. The point cannot be stated more accurately or succinctly than this!

    2. Well, I think yes and no. Moscow, Antioch and two others abstained from that pseudo-council on Crete because at least in part nobody could even agree on the agenda items. If you don't have the issues framed and terms defined in advance, then debate is a complete waste of time.

      The whole thing was strangely rushed and, in retrospect, appears to have been pretextual for some other agenda. Moscow and Antioch demurred, and that should have been that: no Council, because all the Sovereigns don't agree.