Sunday, December 15, 2019

Orthodox primates exhorted to stand up to Moscow

This article is going to get some responses. Let me ask you to be civil for the very reason that, if you aren't, you're going to prove to the people with differing views that they are right to think contemptuously of your opinions.


(Orthodox World) - “Therefore whatever they tell you to observe, that observe and do, but do not do according to their works; for they say, and do not do” (Matthew 23:3).

The reaction of the Moscow Patriarchate to the recent decisions by the Ancient Patriarchate of Alexandria, as well as the Church of Greece, to formally recognize the Orthodox Church in Ukraine (OCU) and its primate, Metropolitan Epiphanios of Kyiv and all Ukraine, reminds me of the Bible passage above.

Last November, in my article “Caring for the Church of Ukraine: Constantinople’s Calmness Carries the Day” published in Providence Magazine, I wrote that local Orthodox churches should seriously examine Moscow’s reaction to the granting of the Tomos of Autocephaly to the OCU by His All-Holiness Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew and the Holy and Sacred Synod of the Ecumenical Patriarchate: “For today the target is Constantinople, but tomorrow it could be them, if their interests do not align with those of Moscow.”

This is precisely what is unfolding in the aftermath of the decisions taken by Patriarch Theodore and Archbishop Ieronymos; Moscow’s purported priority to honour and uphold pan-Orthodox unity, is not consistent according to their works.

Heavenly King, Comforter, the Spirit of Truth, who dwell in all places and fill all things, treasury of good things and giver of life, come and abide in us and cleanse us of every impurity, and save our souls, O Good One.

Seemingly without any sense of humility or fear of God, the Church of Russia has become the self-appointed arbiter of where the Holy Spirit is present.

Following the formal recognition of the OCU, Moscow responded to the Patriarchate of Alexandria and Church of Greece the same way it did to the Ecumenical Patriarchate – it severed communion with both local churches. That is, it weaponized the Body and Blood of Christ, the very source, the mystery that manifests the unity of all Orthodox who are one in Christ Jesus (cf. Gal 3:28), in order to advance its long-standing and politically-motivated agenda.

For the Church of Greece, however, Moscow also created and published a list of metropolises in Greece that can and cannot be visited by Russian pilgrims. The Church of Russia announced that they would monitor the situation and update this list if additional metropolitans from the Church of Greece concelebrated with OCU hierarchs. In effect, Moscow, according to its own judgment, wishes to determine where the Holy Spirit dwells and fills. It is as if the Holy Spirit is a robotic commodity that can be contained and distributed only where Moscow mandates. This, like many of Moscow’s ecclesiastical actions, betray a lack of Christian philanthropia and spiritual maturity.

Another example to highlight this point is the Church of Russia’s approach towards Mount Athos, specifically the Russian-speaking Monastery of St. Panteleimon (which, ironically in this context, means “all-merciful”). According to Moscow, the only Athonite monastery that has the grace of God, the only Athonite monastery where the Holy Spirit dwells and fills is St. Panteleimon. Not because they have a different presiding bishop (all monasteries on the Holy Mountain, including St. Panteleimon, commemorate the name of Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew), not because they practice a different faith or have different liturgical customs, but because, wait for it … they are Russian! Whatever happened to the timeless words of St. Paul that there is neither Jew nor Greek (cf. Gal 3:28)?

What is the root problem of the current division? Is it a matter of Christian faith? No. Of Orthodox dogma, perhaps? No, again. There is one agenda here and it is the Russian World one. It is no surprise that almost all intra-Orthodox disagreements have a common denominator: the desire of Moscow to undermine Constantinople, directly or by proxy, and supplant it as the First Throne of Orthodoxy. And for this, if we are to be sincere, primates and hierarchs from all local churches, to a greater or lesser extent, bear some responsibility.
A multi-generational problem

The primary challenge to contemporary Church unity is not as a result of Constantinople’s decision vis-à-vis Ukraine. The fallout from the creation of the OCU is symptomatic of a larger, multi-generational problem. The problem is Moscow’s ecclesiastical approaches which are not firmly rooted in the good soil (cf. Luke 8:8) of the Church’s history, canons, and pastoral care for its flock. The question is: what kind of Orthodoxy do primates and hierarchs want? Do they prefer the Church be governed synodality, according to the holy canons, with the proper ecclesiastical order? Or do they prefer fleeting and narrow national interests, bullying tactics and, if we are to be sincere, the discreet disbursement of significant financial sums to determine Church decisions.

Consider, for a moment, how Moscow grants autocephaly whenever and wherever its interests are served: the establishment of the Orthodox Church in America is especially instructive here. Not only were the clergymen who comprised the OCA’s predecessor, the Metropolia, non-canonical up until the day Moscow decided to bestow autocephaly to it (without any canonical basis or prerogative to do so), Moscow has maintained multiple ecclesiastical bodies in the United States to the present day. This includes the Russian Orthodox Church Outside Russia, which has had its own questions of canonical legitimacy in recent decades (making the vociferous accusations against the Phanar from its clergymen that much more ironic).

Consider, as well, Moscow establishing autonomous churches throughout the oecumene. Preferring not to celebrate the Divine Liturgy with other Orthodox clergy, but instead employing Russian embassies and consulates as places of worship. Establishing parishes in other local churches under the banner of ‘Moscow Representation’ – even in Turkey – because while there may be no Jew or Greek, there certainly is Russian!

More recently, His Beatitude Catholicos-Patriarch Ilia of Georgia wrote to Patriarch Kirill with concerns about the invasion of Moscow onto the canonical territory of the Church of Georgia. This and other types of related actions have been repeated many times over many decades; if we are to be sincere, this is the standard operating procedure for Moscow.

In 2017, for example, I wrote “Crete, Korea, and the Future of Orthodoxy” in Huffington Post about how the Orthodox Metropolis of Korea (under the jurisdiction of the Ecumenical Patriarchate) was a canary in the coal mine. I described in detail how Moscow’s expansionist tendencies were destroying the unity of the Orthodox faithful in the Korean Peninsula and that hierarchs should intervene to ensure the continuation of the proper canonical order there. (Metropolitan Ambrosios of Korea has written extensively about the non-canonical and disturbing actions of Moscow in Korea.)

And when others – be it local churches or individual clergymen – do not toe the political line, not only does Moscow hasten to weaponize the Holy Eucharist, they systematically employ the threat and execution of excommunication to both intimidate and bully dissidents and denigrate the opinion and outlook of others. Rev. Dr. Nicholas Denysenko has written extensively on how the Moscow Patriarchate has used excommunication as a coercive tactic to remove critics and diminish their credibility.

A case study from Estonia is especially instructive here. Following the Ecumenical Patriarchate’s reestablishment of the Autonomous Orthodox Church of Estonia in 1996, Moscow immediately suspended eight priests and one deacon, labeling them as schismatics. Not because of an egregious canonical error or apostasy, but because they preferred to employ their God-given freedom to be under the canonical jurisdiction of Constantinople.

Before a formal agreement to re-establish communion between Constantinople and Moscow, the latter agreed to revoke the ecclesiastical penalties against the nine individuals. Does this not make a mockery of canonical punishment? Is this not one of many examples where the Church of Russia attempts to determine who has the grace of God and when they have it; in other words, where the Holy Spirit dwells and fills?

A final, related point on Estonia: following Constantinople’s 1996 decision, the Russian Parliament passed legislation to place burdensome financial sanctions on the Estonian government in retaliation – one example in a long list of the Moscow Patriarchate relying on and leveraging the Kremlin to advance its own, and indeed a common, Russian World agenda.

Showing its true face to the world

The steely resolve and Job-like patience of Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew to, after more than one hundred years, bring canonical order to the historic Orthodox country of Ukraine and its God-fearing faithful, has disturbed Moscow’s mandate and showed the world the true face of Russia.

The recognition of the OCU has also brought to light what many Orthodox hierarchs and observers of the Church have known for a long time: the Moscow Patriarchate’s modus operandi often involves bullying, threats and outright fabrications. But there is no need to believe this author, bishops from the Ancient Patriarchate of Alexandria as well as the Church of Greece have publicly confirmed these tactics.

During the extraordinary meeting of the Church of Greece hierarchy in October, for instance, bishop after bishop outlined in precision and with concrete examples the intimidating tactics, threats of punishment, and options for blackmail methodically planned and executed by Russian clergymen, including senior bishops such as Metropolitan Hilarion of Volokolamsk.

(As it relates to Metropolitan Hilarion, he travels from one local church to another leveraging Moscow’s financial clout and deploying the aforementioned tactics, making a mockery of Orthodox synodality in the process and especially taking advantage of some of the ancient patriarchates who find themselves in tenuous situations.)

However, hierarchs from around the world are now beginning to speak out, they are beginning to challenge the norm of accepting Russia’s actions because they are often not aligned with the proper ecclesiastical phronema (mindset).

It is therefore insincere when Patriarch Kirill and Metropolitan Hilarion speak about the dangers of papism, arguing that: “Our Church [Moscow] does not strive for power at the pan-Orthodox level. We only wish to preserve the canonical order and we cannot allow that a likeness of papism, a ‘quasi-papism’, should emerge in Orthodoxy.” It is a well-known tactic to vociferously accuse opponents, without any merit, of tactics employed by oneself.

Kirill’s words are again a reminder of Matthew 23:3, because while the patriarch’s words may be wise, his actions betray his works. There are many examples to support this point, the most egregious being Moscow’s underhandedness vis-à-vis the Holy and Great Council in Crete in 2016. In February I wrote:

Many are now calling for dialogue and the need for pan-Orthodox synodality to solve the issue of Ukraine; the pretense of virtue here knows no bounds. When Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew made concession after concession, mostly to Moscow, in order to realize the Holy and Great Council, it was not enough. When Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew agreed to have the autocephaly agenda item removed from the Council’s agenda, when he agreed to shorten the length of the Council, and when he agreed to move the location of the Council, it was not enough.

Let us briefly examine the words and works of His All-Holiness, not only as they relate to the Holy and Great Council, which alone speak volume, but his initiation and organization of six Synaxis of Primates since being enthroned Ecumenical Patriarch in 1991. Both of these initiatives, and many other related ones emanating from the Phanar, are the exact opposite of Moscow’s baseless charges of “papism.”

“Let your speech always be with grace, seasoned with salt…” (Col 4:6)

Where does Orthodoxy go from here and how can the unity of the Church be ensured?

While the contribution and opinion of lay people – and even most Orthodox clergy – are important, the time has come for the Holy Synod of each local church to publicly speak out against the long standing practices of the Moscow Patriarchate.

It is time for primates and hierarchs to do the right thing. To follow the Ecumenical Councils, the well-established canonical and pastoral tradition of the Church that have been handed down from the Apostles to the Church Fathers and now to present-day bishops.

Primates and hierarchs will resolve the current stalemate if they follow the commandments of Christ – by loving one another, even their enemies (cf. Matthew 5:44)! By exemplifying Christian compassion and genuine mercy.

Moscow may be boxing themselves into a corner, which could help to explain its increasing reliance on extreme and zealous language focusing on “evil”. This in turn has created a group of fanatical Orthodox, particularly on social media, obsessed, not with love and forgiveness, but with schism, heresy and damnation.

Compare this to the language coming out of the Phanar and the homilies of His All-Holiness, which are based on and characterized by love and unity. There is no malice. No revenge nor retribution. Despite repeated personal attacks and countless character assassinations, there is the Ecumenical Patriarch, at every Divine Liturgy, commemorating and praying for Patriarch Kirill. Is this not the calling of a Christian? Let the reader consider it for themselves.

During its Patronal Feast last month, the Holy and Sacred Synod of the Ecumenical Patriarchate decided to officially enter Elder Sophrony of Essex into the catalogue of Saints of the Orthodox Church. The Christ-centred teachings of this holy Russian-born ascetic of the twentieth-century, who was wholly devoted to the Lord, could serve as a blueprint for understanding and reconciliation.

If all parties involved focus on Church unity, if their works are consistent with their words, then they will put self-interest aside and make room for the Holy Spirit, Who indeed dwell in all places and fill all things, leading primates and hierarchs to the knowledge of His truth.


Evagelos Sotiropoulos is the Editor of The Ecumenical Patriarchate and Ukraine Autocephaly: Historical, Canonical, and Pastoral Perspectives published by the Order of Saint Andrew the Apostle.

31 comments:

  1. To "weaponize the Holy Eucharist" is a buzzword and meme I see spoken a lot now. But it almost reduces the holy mystery in importance. The mystery is something to be guarded with our lives and especially by our clergy on whom this responsibility falls heaviest. To just throw the body and blood of Christ out to anyone is actually the mishandling of the mystery. It's not weaponizing it. It's safeguarding it.

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  3. The hierarchs better figure this thing out, because from my spot in the pews it's looking like in Christ there IS Jew or Greek notwithstanding the 1872 Council. Apparently, if you're Ukrainian or Meso-American or Carpatho-Russian and want to start your own ethnic Church you can, so long as it's okay with an ethnic Greek in Turkey.

    This problem has festered for at least a century after people realized you can just move away when the wars start or the economy tanks, and everybody stuck their heads in the sand and pretended ethnicity and nation-states don't exist. Either they do, and are part of God's plan which the Church must set about discerning, or Empire is the proper medium for the Church. Good luck with that one.

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  4. If I could be convinced that one hierarch ISN'T a power-drunk pawn of geopolitical interests by being persuaded that a different hierarch IS a power-drunk pawn of geopolitical interests, this would be an effective piece.

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  5. That’s the problem isn’t it? It’s pots and kettles all the way down, and which side you back says as much about you as the side. Lord have mercy.

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  6. I see this type of intractable polemic divide occurring everywhere now. Parallel with the secession of American Republican politics from rational discourse in the full flight from observed reality in favor of a harsh partisanship, the Phanar is going it alone despite all historical precedent
    against the internal logic of Orthodox Christianity, and like the Republicans successfully roping in many to its viewpoint. I fear there is much worse to come as a synthesis of views does not appear on the horizon. I do not recall anything like this occurring before in my lifetime and haven’t read of it. This is a much more general breakdown in society than just these two examples.
    I read somewhere that a significant minority of Americans are essentially nihilistic and ya they would prefer a breakdown of extant order at any cost. If enough people feel this way civil order could dissolve in a fortnight. I’m seriously concerned.

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    1. There's no polite discourse because Americans no longer agree on existential questions which are otherwise settled at a country's founding. It's not because those Republicans are big meanies. In a multi-polar society, politics are territorial not ideological. See Empire, referenced above.

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  7. I'd like to see this guy's reaction to Archbishop Nikitas prescribing the eucharist, see if he is as up in arms about that abuse of the eucharist as he is about Moscow's supposed mishandling of it.

    A great statement was made by the canonical UOC on this very question, and should answer his quandaries: https://news.church.ua/2019/12/06/statement-of-the-synod-of-the-ukrainian-orthodox-church/?lang=en

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    1. This really is the key issue. So far I have not heard or seen the EP even remotely address these very serious issues. Other than accuse the MP of being mean and manipulative which doesn't really matter so long as real canonical problems exist. Then there is Bartholemew's very public campaign to unity with Rome. Sorry, the appeal just doesn't hold water. HOWEVER, I would welcome a serious refutation of the canonical issues that have been highlighted. Let's have a serious discussion and dispense with sensational and emotionally charged attacks from all side.

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  8. How about preaching the Gospel to all the people. And we wonder why our churches are empty of commited Christans. And all this foolihness during this holy season of anticipation.

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  9. I'm not even Orthodox -- I'm Catholic -- but I have been following this issue with keen interest, not least because of the theological implications.

    The problem with this piece as with some others I've seen from the EP camp is that they never address the actual issues raised by the Russians. Instead they are content to create caricatures and strawmen which they then attack.

    If this is the kind of argumentation the EP is capable of, it raises questions about the quality of the reasoning they used to justify Ukrainian autocephaly.

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  10. Carlos,

    You have hit the nail on the head! The same forces that are currently corrupting the Roman Catholic Church at the highest levels, are at work with our own beloved Orthodox hierarchs, among which is the American State Department. How easily men who are entrusted with the care of the flock can succumb to the pressures of money, prestige, power, and compromise to fall into the trap. I too have been following the events in both Faith communities and have seen the introduction of pagan worship in the Vatican and the furtherance of the homoerotic agenda in both our houses, perhaps a bit less so with us Orthodox, at least for the time being. International agendas are being fostered through the auspices of the UN and among the forces of the so called ecumenical movement. Who is to blame here? As St. John of San Francisco would say "the blame rests with Satan."
    May we all heed the advice of St. Peter:" Be sober, be watchful. Your adversary the devil prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking some one to devour. Resist him, firm in your faith, knowing that the same experience of suffering is required of your brotherhood throughout the world. And after you have suffered a little while, the God of all grace, who has called you to his eternal glory in Christ, will himself restore, establish, and strengthen you."
    Christus vincit. Christus regnat. Christus imperat.

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    1. "Carlos,

      You have hit the nail on the head!"

      Yep, but not in a good way - a way that will lead us (or at least our thinking) out of the ethno-national trap. The "issues of the Russians" as Carlos puts it are not international politics, money, pagan worship, Vatican(ism), homoerotic agenda - all of which fall under secularism. I agree that *generally* the Russians are wiser that the EP/Goarch on these things. None of those things are what Ukraine is about however.

      The "hammer" Carlos and the Russians want to use is the "canonical" one. Too bad, because in point of fact the EP has the letter of the canonical law on his side. The EPatriarchate in fact never gave up his territorial claim, and the Russians never gave up theirs. Behind BOTH assertions is a judgement on how to read the cannons for the modern world. Behind BOTH claims is the inherent weakness of an Imperial Church of the East ecclesiology applied ad hoc to the modern post imperial world.

      Carlos should not be expected to understand these realities. You Fr. Gregory however are expected to not conflate and confuse the issues - these ecclesiological problems/realities with the "homoerotic agenda". To conflate in such a way is muckraking of a low order.

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  11. Conveniently leaves out that Russia's Mission/churches in Korea were stolen by the US and given to the EP.

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  12. If I wanted to be under a pope I'd be under the real one. If we are to accept the EP new doctrines then we need to accept we we have been wrong this entire time and must submit to the Apostolic See not the former Imperial See.

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    1. Agreed. If I thought there was such a thing as Vicar for the whole Planet, nay, the entire Solar System and Galaxy, I'd be Roman Catholic.

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    2. Please note that His Excellency, The Most Reverend John Gerard Noonan, Bishop of Orlando, in which Cape Canaveral is located, is canonically regarded as Roman Catholic Bishop of the Moon.

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  13. I agree also. And it ain't about Greek bashing or Ukrainian bashing or being anti Western. One of my parents was of Scottish and/or Welsh descent. Can't get much further west in Europe than that. Fr. Gregory is of Southern Italian descent.

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  14. As to Sotiropoulos' piece, it's not very good. It's really just a rhetorical counter punch. It's probably only good for revealing the many cultural complexities that the struggle for Unam Sanctam brings.

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  15. The Greeks have joined with the US State Department. This is now wedded to the whole US anti-Russian narrative/propaganda machine, all revolving around some backwards, corrupt country known as Ukraine. Words fail me.

    https://orthochristian.com/126469.html

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    1. No doubt (without clicking on that MP propaganda machine to which you link). The EPatriarchate wedded themselves to the conflict between Russian and the west just after (during really) WWII. As you say, "ecclisia is downstream from culture" and the EP/Goarch culture was (and is) more naturally aligned with American interests due to immigration, mediterranean politics, etc. etc.

      The big "but" is that the MP was and is just as aligned with Russian cultural (and thus political) interests as the EP.

      Yin and Yang I suppose...

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    2. It's like we invade the world because we invite the world or something.

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  16. rhartsc,

    No, the Korean Mission was not "stolen by the US and given to the EP."

    Are MP partisans so quick to forget that the MP was in fact operating as an arm of the KGB abroad, which is why ROCOR existed in the first place? The MP mission was expelled by the South Korean government due to this reason. Whether or not they were actual KGB agents, the perception was there. So the Korean Orthodox were left to fend for themselves. Their only Korean priest was captured by the North Koreans and never seen again.

    The US didn't care about the Orthodox in Korea, because they were too busy fighting the War. It was the Greek Army who found this community, so they took it under their care. The Greek Chaplain provided Liturgy, and the Greek Expeditionary Force took care of their needs, even arranging for a Korean man (Father Boris Moon) to be ordained.

    What were the Korean Orthodox supposed to do, wait until 1991 for the Sacred Mysteries? The Church of Japan was the closest canonical Church (being under the OCA at the time), but anyone who knows the history between Korea and Japan knows that was a non-starter. The EP was literally the only place they could turn.

    This drama played out in a few places in Asia, where the Cold War forced out the MP mission, and the EP picked up the slack. The MP interprets this as sheep stealing, but that isn't how it was, especially in Korea. The Metropolis of Korea was a jewel in the Diaspora, because it was a truly multi-ethnic, multi-cultural Metropolis operating under one Bishop. It is a testament to that long standing friendship and unity in that many of the Russians in Korea have remained with the EP Metropolis. Patriarch Kyrill is not the Patriarch of all Russians Everywhere.

    No Churches were stolen, because no Churches existed. The War destroyed everything. It was the Koreans (with the help of the Greek Army and later the EP) who built everything that exists in Korea today. The Russian origins of the Korean Mission are honored. Their portraits hang in the main hall today, and the artifacts of that era are displayed in the St. Maxim's Chapel, which serves the Slavophone community (including the vestments gifted by St. John of Krondstadt). Greek Chauvinism is nowhere to be found here.

    To be blunt: You don't know what you are talking about.

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    1. So THAT'S why the EP has universal jurisdiction and can grant autocephaly to Ukraine!

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    2. Anti-Gnostic,

      No. What that means is that somebody had to take care of the Korean Church, as any further connection to the MP was impossible (Russian support of the North Koreans didn't help either). The Church of Japan was also impossible, so the EP was literally the only one who could take them in.

      This scenario played out all over the world. That doesn't give the EP "universal jurisdiction," but the pastoral reality on the ground due to the Cold War meant that the MP could not minister to many of their Missions anymore. What were those missions supposed to do? Go vagante? Since much of the Church was behind the Iron Curtain, that didn't leave many options, did it? The MP now wants to "reclaim" those Missions, never mind that they have not been "theirs" for decades. How is that right?

      Your sarcasm aside, the reality on the ground goes beyond these intellectual exercises of "who's first." The aftermath of the Russian Revolution left a pastoral catastrophe in its wake. Everyone scrambled to clean up the mess, going to what canonical jurisdiction they could, or barring that, not so canonical jurisdictions. The MP was compromised, and as a result were not allowed to operate in many countries in the West and elsewhere aligned with the United States. This is where you saw the Greeks and Antiochians growing in America, with the OCA, ROCOR and other broken pieces of the Russian Church disconnected from the MP doing what they could.

      I'm not playing the political game in this thread, gnostic. I posted because I have personal ties to the Metropolis of Korea and refuse to allow any attack on it to go unanswered.

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  17. "The "hammer" Carlos and the Russians want to use..."

    Oh, wow Jack! All I said was, the Russians have raised issues, and the EP's supporters don't seem to be actually answering these. Nowhere did I say that the Russians are "right", nor did I even specifically refer only to their "canonical" argument. (As a Catholic I am more interested in how all this is shaping up to be about the concept of "protos".)

    Apparently for you Jack, merely saying that the Russians have some points that deserve to be answered, is enough for you to say that I'm with the Russians.

    This only confirms me further more in the view that there's no point trying to have a conversation with EP supporters like you. Apparently for the likes of you, only by taking an a priori "the Russians are wrong" position can anyone approach the Ukrainian issue. (You'd probably be at home in the Catholic commentariat, which largely thinks in the same way.)

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    1. (ignoring your rather dramatic personal offense):

      Well, yes the Russian's bring up "issues" of a canonical sort. They and their supports talk allot about the letter of the canonical law, ironic given that the actual letter is explicit about the EP's prerogatives. They are more persuasive when they argue from post-empire precedent.

      Your focus on 'protos' is cogent, because when (such as in this case) two Patriarchs have different rulings as to the application and judgement of canonical law, who/what is the "supreme court" too which they appeal? The common (notice I did not say "Traditional") answer is "an Ecumenical Council".

      Yet, as RC's such as yourself sometimes (and rightly IMO) point out, Orthodoxy has not had actually had a an "Ecumenical Council" in 1300 years so is it really as "conciliar" as it tells itself?

      Just so you know, while I support the EP's actions in Ukraine, this is largely a "lessor of two weevils" sort of position. Given the de facto ethno-national ontology of this Church of the East, I believe the EP's actions is the more consistent and pastoral of the two. The MP's is legalistic and the result of its own internal self-story (i.e. the relevance of the mythic "Kievan-Rus", etc.) and oppressive.

      On most other issues, such as how to be Orthodox in a modern secular world, I think the Russian's are wiser.

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  18. Lord bless and protect all righteous bishops and have mercy on Your Church.

    I cannot, I will not commune with Rome under any circumstance other than their full and complete public repentance.

    The EP has no real flock, lives in a land who's ruler's have been systematically squeezing it for 550 years which leaves him exceptionally vulnerable to the temptations of the evil one.

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  19. Plus for me the real issue is the EP proclaiming 1. He is first withhout equal and 2. there are no essential theological differences between the RCC and the Orthodox Church.

    The situation in Ukraine will eventually get worked out.

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