Monday, February 1, 2021

What agreement?

Anyone know what deal the GOA made with the Oriental Orthodox?

(SCOOCH) - On Thursday, January 21, 2021, His Eminence Mor Dionysius John Kawak, Very Rev. Fr. Joseph Chamoun, and Deacon George Kiraz attended the Standing Conference of Oriental Orthodox Churches (SCOOCh) meeting Via ZOOM. During the meeting they discussed the pastoral agreement between the Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of America and the Standing Conference of Oriental Orthodox Churches (SCOOCh) and other related issues.


  1. I have been told of an informal agreement made with the OCA where orientals could receive sacraments in churches in places where there was no oriental churches or in mixed families. (similar to antiochian/Alexandrian agreements) I suspect some sort of agreement is being formalized with the Eastern churches.

  2. So section 5 (ii) is something that often happens, but almost always Oriental Orthodox using Eastern Orthodox Churches. (and BTW both Oriental and Eastern Churches using Catholic churches)
    Section 5 (i) to me indicates the GOC recognizes OO baptisms and marriages. Is there a document that states this?
    Is this a working document or policy?
    INCOMING!!! I can already hear the responses from Mount Athos......

  3. Basil, 5i) I think this is tacitly done in a lot of Eastern churches. But with a bunch of caveats, no other church available, if the person is going to stay in a church they may be received by confession etc... (not jump between both).
    I dont think this is much of a step depending on the context.

  4. I have seen OO (almost always Ethiopian for some reason) communed, received in Greek and Antiochian churches if they are going to stay in the parish. What I have not seen or heard of is basically clergy concelebrating at marriages, funerals and baptisms.

  5. Oriental Orthodox are customarily received into the Eastern Orthodox Church through the Sacrament of Confession, with public affirmation of the Orthodox Creed. Is GOARCH making it less ‘onerous’?
    Blessed Feast!

    1. That hasn't been a norm (in North America anyways) for quite some time. They don't believe in the heresies they're expected to renounce, so there's sense to dropping it...

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