The GOA Clergy-Laity 2016: Holy and Great Council

The tone and content of Dn. John Chryssavgis lecture on the fruits and difficulties of the Crete event (starting around 12:30) are not what I would call conciliatory. In fact he highlights divisions and often comes across as condescending of his detractors. This won't convince many people to his side and might well enrage more than a few people.

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  1. AnonymousAugust 29, 2016 at 10:58 AM

    He disturbed me before the robber council. He disturbed me during the robber council. And he disturbs me after the robber council. His arrogance knows no bounds. I could not even finish listening to him. I disagree with almost everything he says. The only dividing issue is the fact that this robber council had to happen....and that the Deacon and his cohorts continue to flood the holy Orthodox Church with their propaganda.

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  2. lannesAugust 29, 2016 at 5:31 PM

    Obviously an "establishment" guy.

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  3. maximusAugust 29, 2016 at 8:08 PM

    Archbishop Demetrios' comments in the Q & A comparing those who don't accept this [supposedly] non-dogmatic synod with those who rejected Chalcedon, thereby lacking the fullness Orthodoxy, are quite disturbing. The Phanariots play nicer with heterodox and non-Christians than they do with their own brethren.

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    1. Gregory ManningSeptember 1, 2016 at 4:28 PM

      "The Phanariots play nicer with heterodox and non-Christians" because they agree with each other.

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  4. John (Ad Orientem)August 29, 2016 at 10:43 PM

    This is a really unfortunate lecture. I feel badly for the man.

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  5. Gil GarzaAugust 30, 2016 at 1:05 AM

    He's got nice cuff links.

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  6. AnonymousAugust 30, 2016 at 8:49 AM

    It is highly disturbing that Archbishop Demetrios dares to equate the Cretan meeting with the Council of Chalcedon. And it is even more disturbing that he implies those who will not recognize it as a "Holy and Great Council" are like the Monophysites! I think the EP may find itself as a schismatic entity very soon.

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  7. Evangelical OrthodoxyAugust 30, 2016 at 9:04 AM

    Those he's criticizing are being taken to task because "conciliatory" isn't even part of their vocabulary. There's a long list of polemic speeches and statements by "the other team" that Chryssavgis' rhetoric doesn't come close to.

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    1. Byzantine, TXAugust 30, 2016 at 9:15 AM

      I'd say they are being taken to task because there is a different viewpoint on these topics. Regardless of the sometimes unkind words spoken by the opponents of the EP agenda, it is not (in my opinion) the tone that he's even mentioning here. It's the content of their opinions.

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