Thursday, January 27, 2022

OTSA keeps fighting against "fundamentalist" straw man

Posted by Byzantine, TX

13 comments:

  1. jckstraw72January 27, 2022 at 11:55 AM

    I'm about 20 minutes in. Seems the purpose is to cry about the fact that people can see through Public Orthodoxy and the like?

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  2. JakeJanuary 27, 2022 at 12:07 PM

    Fr. Jillions, like so many Orthodox formed in the 1960/1970's, are liberal "theologians" through and through and barely distinguishable from their protestant/catholic counterparts from the same period. Even with a generous and irenic disposition towards their formation, time and place, and real concerns, a person still can't help but see the failure and irrelevancy of their analysis/prescriptions to the Church *as it actually is in NA* in 2022.

    It's worse than a "straw man", they are fighting against yesterdays fundamentalist straw man, yesterdays dialogue, yesterdays sexual revolution, yesterdays secularism. They don't just belong in a museum, they belong in the dusty warehouse of yesterdays museum where all the artifacts that are not even all that useful to teach history are kept.

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  3. JakeJanuary 27, 2022 at 3:11 PM

    One thing worth watching/listening to in this video (about 4 minutes starting at 1:05) is Edith Humprhy's rebuke (collegiately given, but a rebuke nonetheless) of Fr. Jillion's use of the term "fundamentalism", citation of her, and whole thesis.

    Fr. Jillion's response is as unimpressive as his whole disposition toward this subject.

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  4. SamuelMorseJanuary 28, 2022 at 5:43 PM

    Isn't this the guy who betrayed Metropolitan Johan ?

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    1. SamuelMorseJanuary 28, 2022 at 5:55 PM

      Type-o. "Metropolitan Jonah"

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    2. Joseph LipperFebruary 1, 2022 at 9:34 AM

      This is the guy that Metropolitan Jonah personally chose as his chancellor for the OCA.

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  5. SamuelMorseJanuary 28, 2022 at 5:53 PM

    Type-o. "Metropolitan Jonah"

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  6. Russell SnowJanuary 31, 2022 at 8:56 AM

    Comments are turned off on the video.

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  7. JakeFebruary 1, 2022 at 5:28 PM

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  8. JakeFebruary 1, 2022 at 6:08 PM

    I skipped around so I missed the part where Fr. John calls out Rod Dreher and Fr. Chad Hadfield. Rod responds today, and he's right this is really about the sexual revolution, which itself is an anthropological revolution grounded in the long history of the western church. Anyone check out the editor of "The Wheel", Inga Leonova? She is an open homosexualist, has an "art and design" background, and lectures on architecture and "ecology", even though she has no training in the latter. What kind of "dialogue" is to be had with this sort of liberation theology? Fr. John and all the old liberals like him are just lamenting that it's no longer the 1960's and most in the church have moved on (if ever so gingerly) from what he considers the apogee of culture within and without the Church...

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  9. bobFebruary 5, 2022 at 10:23 PM

    I mentioned the most ancient straightforward unequivocal Orthodox prohibition of abortion and infanticide to Inga, the Didache. It was angrily rejected. If a person can't handle 1st century Apostolic era writing accepted by the whole Church the faith of the succeeding 20 centuries are unlikely to convince them of anything. "fundamentalists" who take Didache seriously are keeping pretty good company.

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