Monday, October 1, 2018

Schismatic head reports on Ukraine's patriarchal election

(RISU) - The Tomos, the decree of the Ecumenical Patriarch granting autocephaly to the Ukrainian Orthodox Church, will be received by the new head of the UOC. This was stated in the interview with Channel 5 by the Primate of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church of Kyiv Patriarchate Filaret.

He explained that the Head of the One Local Church would be elected at the Unification Council. And this will happen once Constantinople approves the decision on granting autocephaly to Ukraine.

“The head of the Ukrainian Church will be elected at the Unification Council, and the Unification Council will bring together 41 hierarchs of the Kyiv Patriarchate, 12 bishops of the Ukrainian Autocephalous Orthodox Church (UAOC), 10 bishops of the UOC (Moscow Patriarchate),” said Patriarch Filaret.


  1. How is it possible to hold a council of bishops including a large proportion of either defrocked or consecrated-by-defrocked bishops? Doesn't there have to be some kind of canonical step prior to this?

    1. Clearly canons don't seem to matter to these people.

    2. Just like canons didn't mean much to the Serbians, Greeks, Georgians, etc...when they decided on their own to become autocephalous.

    3. Autocephaly is taken or recognized. Nobody recognizes the USA's autocephaly, because its Church is young and fractured and the US is a secular propositional nation, not a traditional nation-state or empire (some might debate this). The Churches in Serbia and Georgia have sufficient gravitas to be regarded as autocephalous. Nobody seriously questions their status.

      Cyprus, Jerusalem and Alexandria are autocephalous because of historical import, like Constantinople. Antioch is autocephalous, and floats around between Damascus and Beirut after being evicted from Turkey.

      Ukraine is a provincial area that's existed as an independent country only since 1991 and previously was passed around between empires. It's one of the most corrupt places on earth and would probably be better off under Russian administration. Not fertile ground for a Church that wants to be taken seriously as a Patriarchate.

    4. Well Georgia relieved its autocephaly in the 5th century from Antioch and there's no indication that it self-declared uncanonically. Likewise for the Patriarchate of Pec (Serbia) in the 14th century from Constantinople. That Moscow and Constantinople uncanonically recended, respectively, Georgia's and Serbia's autocephaly in the 18th and 19th centuries is neither here nor there. Greece did take autocephaly into it's own hands, but it's bishops were not at the time defrocked or consecrated by defrocked bishops. This is before we get to the self-consecrators at the origins of the UAOC.