"I am the door. By me if any man enter in he shall be saved, and shall go in and out and find pasture." - John 10:9 At every parish where I have had the pleasure of attending services, there is always a small group of people who find their way all the way up to the church building but don't actually attend services. At one parish it was a group of male gypsies who talked on cellphones or smoked cigarettes. At another it was a few Protestant husbands who, though they never attended services, opened the parish doors for people as they filed in. At yet another parish the men stood in the narthex and chatted until it was time to receive and then got in line. Latin or Greek Catholic, Eastern or Oriental Orthodox I see the same small throng of men standing next to the front door, but not standing, sitting, or kneeling amongst the people. If it were me (and I can only speak for myself here) this option would be an unsavory one. The boredom would be immediate. The anxiety of som...
"lifting the suspension of Chaldean priests who fled Iraq after the Islamic State came to power."
ReplyDeleteThis part seems to be innacurate. From reading the other articles, it appears that these priests, certainly Fr. Gorgis, left Iraq around the time of the *1st* Gulf War i.e. circa 1990. So at least some of them have been in the US for about 20 years and now they're getting around to disciplining them, because of the current situation of priests leaving their posts.
(Which is not to say neccesarily that this is either a) the right decision or b) the right way for authority to be exercised.)
The priests appealed to Rome. This is not disrespecting the Eastern Patriarchs. There is a long history of Eastern Bishops and Priest appealing to the Pope of Rome during times of trial.
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ReplyDeleteCorrect me if I'm wrong, but while there are plenty of instances throughout history of bishops appealing to Rome, I can't think of a single one where a priest appealed. Where the Pope exercised such authority, it came in a synodal manner (i.e., the result of a synod asking for the Pope's judgement).
Having a single priest appeal to the Pope, and then having said Pope make a pronouncement countermanding that priest's hierarch not only is without (conciliarily approved) precedent, it is canonically improper.
The Pope, like any other bishop, has immediate authority only in his own diocese, or at least he should have.
Perhaps you are right about individual priest appealing to Rome but the local Chaldean Catholic Bishops also appealed to Rome, I believe, on these priests behalf.
DeleteCorrect me if I'm wrong, but while there are plenty of instances throughout history of bishops appealing to Rome, I can't think of a single one where a priest appealed.
ReplyDeleteArguably, Pope Nicholas I and Pope Adrian II hearing and supporting the Priest Constantine and the Hierodeacon Methodious in their appeal against Theotmar, Archbishop of Salzburg and Bishop of Passau who asserted authority over the territory in which they were working.
The brothers had been sent to Great Moravia by Patriarch Photius, but there was a legitimate dispute at that point about whose territory they were in.