Is the male-only priesthood a discipline or essential to the nature of being a priest? Sr. Vassa (again unflinchingly taking up a contentious topic by climbing up the ladder to the highest platform and then jumping into the deep end head first) dives right in and says there is no reason beyond personal preference to not have female clergy. You know, when people ask me about women in priesthood, they say, 'Sister, why can't women be priests?' And I say, 'Women CAN be priests. We don't WANT them to be priests.' Because you see, God can do anything, and the Church, by divine authority, uh, can do anything, but, the Church doesn't want to - and that's a legitimate reason. What I don't like is when we TRY to pretend that there are other reasons for this, because it's legitimate not to want something, and there are reasons not to want this - right? - but, we shouldn't pretent that there's some... reason, that, for example, the maleness...
It has been a year already since the Holy and Great Council was convened and the Orthodox Church in Russia together with the Orthodox Church in Georgia and in Bulgaria did not attend and did criticise the ecumenical position in the texts of the Council and insist that Catholic and Protestant heretics cannot be defined as "Churches".
ReplyDeleteBut here in the article that you posted and looking back on the joint statement between Kyrill of Moscow and Francis of Rome in Cuba, the word "Churches" and even the word as "brother" were very evident on the texts. Can someone make me understand these confusing statements from the prelates of the Moscow Patriarchates.
You need to drop your conviction that the Moscow patriarchate is less ecumenical than the Ecumenical Patriarchate. They may differ in style, but their relations with the Catholic Church are more-less on the same level.
DeleteThe MP is less blatant only because the mass of people would revolt.
DeleteTo Mike and Maximus... still does not answer my question... the part on which MP called RC as a "Church" and I would assume same for mainstream Christian Churches like the Oriental Churches and Episcopal Church in relation to their objection in one of the documents of the Holy Council. Any clergies from the MP?
DeleteI don't recall the MP ever officially rejecting the use of the word "church" for non-Orthodox churches... The Bulgarians, Georgians and conservative elements in many churches (particularly among the Greeks) did this, but their position shouldn't be conflated with Moscow's.
DeleteAs the MP receives the Catholic clergy without (re)ordaining them I do not see they consider it a problem.
DeleteAt least in Western Europe, they also receive confirmed Catholics by confession of faith.
DeleteInteresting, however, that Hilarion speaks of, and to, Melkite Greek Catholics with a very different style and substance than those employed with respect to Ukrainian Greco-Catholics...
ReplyDeleteBecause they do not consider Melkites (or Maronites for that matter) as their competitors. Same for the unrecognized Macedonian Church, with which the MP has pretty warm relations, especially when compared to the Kiev Patriarchate.
DeleteNowadays, territory is of extreme importance not the substance of the Faith. Our local churches will talk tough and break communion over territory relatively quickly, but rarely over matters pertaining to faith. Think Russia/Cnople, Jerusalem/Romania, Antioch/Jerusalem and now Serbia/Romania.
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