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And if you'd like to compare the above to what a "normal" Liturgy looks and sounds like, you can watch this.
The Chaldean Catholic Liturgy was thoroughly "Novus-Ordoized". The Assyrian Church of the East keeps the ancient liturgical Traditions. Patriarch Joseph VI Audo must be turning in his grave.
also here, Cardinal Louis, the head of the Chaldean Catholics, mocks the Congregation for Rites in Rome, for wanting more authenticity, and also makes fun of the vision of the four living creatures in the scripture and the Byzantine Liturgy, in a sermon of Oct 2020 "I got really mad today because the Eastern [Catholic Churches’] Congregation sent us a letter, like that – I didn’t open it, and I told the [Papal] ambassador that I'm not going to open it – to the effect of, ‘Yes, you should take care what… you have made too many innovations. Take care about [the liturgy], also in consideration of your sister Church, the Orth… I mean the Assyrian one.’ OK, we welcome this, but between us and them there are 500 years… 500 years! So if I, we, return to these anaphoras… the anaphora that [Saint] Addai practiced – Addai is the most acceptable one – Nestorius and Theodore, which needs 2.5 hours for us to officiate. All this imagination, chariots and wings in heaven, and angels with six wings covering their faces, castrating their lower parts, and covering I don’t know what. What, are we in a zoo, or do we want to pray? And, anyway, we are also living in a society of which 96% are Muslims. Shouldn’t we speak with them? Shouldn’t they understand our prayers? I mean, where are they going? The [Congregation for Eastern Catholic Churches] have no right to tell us what to do. They have no right to command us. I also told all of this to the ambassador. We are also called to understand and pray in… in words and a language which we live. How would they know our liturgy? How can we make them understand? They don’t neither Chaldean (sic.) nor do they know Arabic, nor... What do they know? Where would they know from? I wish that you would pray for this intention."
Is the male-only priesthood a discipline or essential to the nature of being a priest? Sr. Vassa (again unflinchingly taking up a contentious topic by climbing up the ladder to the highest platform and then jumping into the deep end head first) dives right in and says there is no reason beyond personal preference to not have female clergy. You know, when people ask me about women in priesthood, they say, 'Sister, why can't women be priests?' And I say, 'Women CAN be priests. We don't WANT them to be priests.' Because you see, God can do anything, and the Church, by divine authority, uh, can do anything, but, the Church doesn't want to - and that's a legitimate reason. What I don't like is when we TRY to pretend that there are other reasons for this, because it's legitimate not to want something, and there are reasons not to want this - right? - but, we shouldn't pretent that there's some... reason, that, for example, the maleness...
( Orthochristian.com ) - The primate of the Orthodox Church in America, His Beatitude Metropolitan Tikhon of Washington and All America and Canada, will concelebrate with the primate of the canonical Ukrainian Orthodox Church, His Beatitude Metropolitan Onuphry of Kiev and All Ukraine, in western Ukraine later this week. The Ukrainian Orthodox Diocese of Chernivtsi and Bukovina “awaits the visit of the primate of the Orthodox Church in America on June 1–2, 2024. Solemn services will be held in the Cathedral of the Descent of the Holy Spirit in Chernivtsi, with the participation of both primates.” The Holy Synod of the Orthodox Church in America formally rejects communion with the schismatics of the “Orthodox Church in Ukraine,” recognizing only the canonical UOC under Met. Onuphry. The Ukrainian primate was the honored guest at the OCA’s 18th All-American Council in July 2015.
NEW YORK: July 12, 2013 ( ROCOR ) - An Extraordinary Session of the Synod of Bishops is Held On Wednesday, July 10, 2013, an extraordinary session of the Synod of Bishops of the Russian Orthodox Church Outside of Russia was held, presided over by its First Hierarch, His Eminence Metropolitan Hilarion of Eastern America and New York. Participating in the meeting were permanent members of the Synod of Bishops: His Eminence Archbishop Mark of Berlin and Germany; His Eminence Archbishop Kyrill of San Francisco and Western America; His Eminence Archbishop Gabriel of Montreal and Canada, and His Grace Bishop Peter of Cleveland, Administrator of the Diocese of Chicago and Mid-America. Deliberating on the matter of Bishop Jerome of Manhattan, the Synod of Bishops made a decision as follows: “During a meeting of the Synod of Bishops on Wednesday, July 10, 2013, presided over by the First Hierarch of the Russian Church Abroad, A DECISION WAS MADE: on the activities of Bishop Jerome of Ma...
The Chaldean Catholic Liturgy was thoroughly "Novus-Ordoized". The Assyrian Church of the East keeps the ancient liturgical Traditions. Patriarch Joseph VI Audo must be turning in his grave.
ReplyDeletereview http://byztex.blogspot.com/2020/10/chaldean-catholics-renewing-their.html
ReplyDeletealso here, Cardinal Louis, the head of the Chaldean Catholics, mocks the Congregation for Rites in Rome, for wanting more authenticity, and also makes fun of the vision of the four living creatures in the scripture and the Byzantine Liturgy, in a sermon of Oct 2020
ReplyDelete"I got really mad today because the Eastern [Catholic Churches’] Congregation sent us a letter, like that – I didn’t open it, and I told the [Papal] ambassador that I'm not going to open it – to the effect of, ‘Yes, you should take care what… you have made too many innovations. Take care about [the liturgy], also in consideration of your sister Church, the Orth… I mean the Assyrian one.’ OK, we welcome this, but between us and them there are 500 years… 500 years!
So if I, we, return to these anaphoras… the anaphora that [Saint] Addai practiced – Addai is the most acceptable one – Nestorius and Theodore, which needs 2.5 hours for us to officiate. All this imagination, chariots and wings in heaven, and angels with six wings covering their faces, castrating their lower parts, and covering I don’t know what. What, are we in a zoo, or do we want to pray? And, anyway, we are also living in a society of which 96% are Muslims. Shouldn’t we speak with them? Shouldn’t they understand our prayers? I mean, where are they going?
The [Congregation for Eastern Catholic Churches] have no right to tell us what to do. They have no right to command us. I also told all of this to the ambassador. We are also called to understand and pray in… in words and a language which we live. How would they know our liturgy? How can we make them understand? They don’t neither Chaldean (sic.) nor do they know Arabic, nor... What do they know? Where would they know from? I wish that you would pray for this intention."